White interpretation of Blacks causing own problems, re Pianki comment on Diversity Inc, 1/4/18

In some places I agree with you, but your lack of knowledge about history leaves off too many huge pieces of the problems. You seem to be speaking from the perspective of many who say that Black people cause their own problems – and I don’t know many who would disagree that drugs and alcohol make difficulties much worse than they might have been. Growing up in a family where parents were alcoholics, hidden behind affluence, I will speak always to the idea that drugs and alcohol in general but particularly when used by parents, are demoralizing and harmful to children and thus to neighborhoods. Yet historically, because of the life threatening nature of punishment meted out in white systems to Blacks, many Black families have hesistated to turn a frustrating relative over to the criminal justice system – they want things fixed, not their people and loved ones eliminated. I actually believe that widespread use hampers progress, distorts it, does not help men and women work together, to synchronize efforts to raise young.

However…. without drugs, alcohol or crime involved, or with only minor crimes related to teenagers experimenting with an adult world, and making wrong choices – punishments for Black citizens has been historically a matter of brutality, fear, or locking them up for decades, and throwing away the key. Our systems in white leadership, liberal as well as conservative, are represented by institutions most often deaf to new information, running on bureaucratic rules and procedures, where it is horrifically difficult to add in information related to individuals – and particularly if any of those individuals are Black.

So, you speak of depleted property values as if Black behavior caused that – but the history shows that white FEAR of Black behavior created massive separations on institutional levels – maintaining neighborhoods so separated by race that interchange of values was prohibited, and poverty builds in isolation. Meanwhile all separation of races is easily enforced, more with Black than any other group, through generations – because of widespread white lack of familiarity and avoidance, on a more unrelenting scale than with any other group – because Black citizens are so instantly identifiable even from a distance, as Black, not in terms of whatever is their lifestyle, character, age, class, culture or circumstance.

So today we have some questions and generally, good conversations are sorting through more answers together, in each other’s view and presences, and hopefully this new opportunity will help us see values and efforts where they have been invisible, because only surface skin or other categories, were considered worth talking about.

Reply to excellent article on police, force, and race in 2017, Diversity Inc.

The Data Is In: Police Disproportionately Killed Black People in 2017


A great article, one to be saved, for breaking down the kinds of killings by race and color and situation. Many of us watch such trends, and know that if un-necessary killings occur, without sanction or adequate remedies even tried – there are major issues, but the research in the past has not tackled the places where bias, resentment (of those who perceived as criticizing police or USA) and unfamiliarity (across culture and race, speaking and self organizing styles, as well as physical differentiation), issues that confuse policing, along with lax of oversight ofvalue of focus on eliminating unnecessary force, all contribute to awareness of a fair system being broken. Thanks for the summary!